tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6188623171470309372.post4693850827852410436..comments2023-09-05T02:47:23.001-07:00Comments on Sporadic Sporkitudes: Kickass Women in FilmRamblingHutchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15740058025895113195noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6188623171470309372.post-12894487359954333272010-11-10T15:08:32.462-08:002010-11-10T15:08:32.462-08:00When it comes to men having the 'chic flick...When it comes to men having the 'chic flick' crises I would just say that's sort of part of the male societal DNA (totally made that up). Just like a guy doesn't want to get busted holding his wife's purse by his buddies they don't want to get caught going to a chic flick either. It personally doesn't bother me, but some guys can't take the ribbing. Maybe that plays into it? I don't know.Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17045294003088106262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6188623171470309372.post-57923421367753013272010-11-10T14:11:41.226-08:002010-11-10T14:11:41.226-08:00So by your definition, movies designed for men tha...So by your definition, movies designed for men that feature boobs, etc. prominently are also exploitative and pandering. And yet they aren't considered marginalized by society's standards. While a woman might not enjoy the film as much, it wouldn't affect her femininity to attend. But a man will probably only go see a movie like the Notebook if he's dragged by his girlfriend, and even then only so he can get laid afterward. It's great that you actually enjoyed that movie and were able to get over the chick flick aspect. But I think you are one of the few. I personally hated it.<br /><br />But I completely agree about the need for compelling stories that affect audiences regardless of gender. Ideally, it shouldn't matter. The Secret Life of Bees, and I'm assuming the Kids are Alright, are such stories, and yet they are still given the term 'chick flick.' This causes an existential crisis in male viewers, making them wonder if they will be less masculine if they watch, identify, and enjoy female-driven content.<br /><br />I'm didn't post this to be all militant feminist or pro-traditional chick flick (meaning crappy rom-com). I enjoy both the lame Jennifer Lopez movies and the brilliant but vulgar Kevin Smith/Judd Apatow films. I'm genuinely curious as to why women are, as you said, treated as minorities in film. Especially when over %55 percent of audiences are women.<br /><br />If I wasn't a film major, I would have been a sociology major. I find it fascinating why we think these things.RamblingHutchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15740058025895113195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6188623171470309372.post-26128862290098249742010-11-09T22:02:11.426-08:002010-11-09T22:02:11.426-08:00Why I don't (normally) like chic flicks...
Wh...Why I don't (normally) like chic flicks...<br /><br />While I don't spend much time thinking about or wondering who makes chic flicks one thing I have realized is that women are treated like minorities when it comes to making movies. I liken most chic flicks to movies made for African-American audiences. Black people don't think Tyler Perry is that funny but they still watch his movies. Women don't think Jennifer Lopez is a brilliant actress yet they still go and watch any movie she's pregnant/looking for love/kicking her mother in law's ass. <br /><br />Movies that pander just aren't that good, even to the people you're pandering to. It's modern day exploitation films. Don't make a movie for an audience, make a movie because you want to tell the story. A perfect example is The Notebook. Every guy you ever ask about that movie has seen it. And you know what? We all cry to that damn movie and have a great time with our cuddly girlfriends at the time. It was a good movie. <br /><br />Have a compelling story and you'll be able to touch men and women. Why do raunchy comedies geared towards men do well? Because they show naked breasts. It's pretty simple really. Men will watch any movie, no matter how horrible it is, if there are nipples involved. We would watch chic flicks for the same reason if there were multiple naked women. Just a male DNA thing. Doesn't mean we think those movies are particularly good, it's just we've had a few beers and there are breasts out.Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17045294003088106262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6188623171470309372.post-6236536024524822972010-11-09T19:36:10.345-08:002010-11-09T19:36:10.345-08:00They didn't discuss trailers, but the did talk...They didn't discuss trailers, but the did talk about marketing. They don't get a say in it at all. They are subjected to whatever the marketing experts decide. This was more in regards to posters than trailers.<br /><br />As I told my sister-in-law who is also a vehement hater of Ugly Truth, I still don't think it was that great. But knowing that most of the horrible things Gerard Butler says were actually said in real life by someone Karen McCullah knows, helped me to believe it a little more. Not to mention the whole Judd Apatow theory that women aren't allowed to be as raunchy as men. So I'm a little more forgiving now. Not to mention, it wasn't trying to be Citizen Kane. It was just a mediocre romantic comedy. And Katherine Heigl was one of the examples of internationally bankable stars. Even though she's mostly hated now in America, she is huge abroad. So that's why she keeps getting cast. That's why it was such an interesting debate about likeability and bankability in casting.RamblingHutchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15740058025895113195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6188623171470309372.post-38150057432578513682010-11-09T18:15:25.641-08:002010-11-09T18:15:25.641-08:00Not so fast! While Ten Things I Hate About You, L...Not so fast! While <i>Ten Things I Hate About You, Legally Blonde,</i> and <i>She's the Man</i> were all very funny movies, I agree with your original opinion that <i>The Ugly Truth</i> missed the mark. If you hadn't clued me in, I would have never guessed that these were all written by the same woman. <i>The Ugly Truth</i> was too predictable and Heigl's character was a stereotype, one that she already played with a little more likeability in <i>Knocked Up</i>. I did like that it was set in Sacramento (the hubby is from there, and we spent three or four years living there), but I didn't feel like it was very well-researched as a location and, as a result, it didn't really feel like Sacramento to me.<br /><br />Did they discuss trailers at all? Because one of my biggest problems with <i>The Ugly Truth</i> was that the trailer gave the entire movie away. HUGE problem in film these days. I'm so sick of it. A good trailer can make or break a movie, and a great many romantic comedies are being sold by showing the entire plot, start to finish, in the preview. Gosh, that irks me!<br /><br />/rant :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05668422854191586225noreply@blogger.com